Really enjoyed this in depth review. Driver - However, I guess I’m just a sentimentalist at heart, because what I lament the most is the fact that MacGregor USED to be an independent COMPANY…now it’s just a golf retailer’s “house brand” marketed along side numerous others. I’ll read to see what all of you say about your favorites. Would have been interesting. Callaway X Forged Iron: 6. They’re not meant to be “swept.” Well, enough of my long winded comment. Unfortunately Adams Golf what out of stock of the iron needed for this review. It doesn’t sound like much, but we all know that 3 feet can mean a world of difference once the putter is in your hands. The blades, as the name suggests, are thinner and sleeker, offering impressive feedback ideal for players who want to become more consistent with their shots. Read more: Best Driving Iron Golf Clubs Reviews. But I had to change cause the shaft was a reg. Titleist Pro V-1X, I still find the TOMMY ARMOUR 845s irons to play closer to a player's blade iron than any other CB iron available on the market currently or in the past...JD, Callaway Epic Flash Subzero Triple Diamond 10.5 down to 9.5 Diamana DF 60X The Pro CB was a runaway winner when we asked to pick what they thought was the best looking iron of test bunch. The guy I work with at Cleveland is one of the best…but it was out of his hands. really enjoyed the review and the design of the interactive review for your 1st attempt. That, coupled with the differences in shaft length and lofts between manufacturers makes it extremely difficult to draw any meaningful conclusions about distance. is difficult when you’re in the position of basically deciding what should matter to anyone and everyone. The former is what you get only with muscle-back irons while the latter is the sole purpose of game improvement irons. The MacGregor VIP Irons are Forged over seas (as are a lot of the OEM brands) but they are Assembled in the USA, right here in Texas at the Golfsmith HQ. We would LOVE to test everything for these type of reviews, and in most cases companies are more than happy to provide us with whatever we ask for. I’m still trying to get used to the feel versus my old Tommy Armour V-25 forged irons. Those who did almost unanimously told us that the Fourteen TC-910 was easier to hit than the other clubs. I play in a 40 man league every Saturday (Stableford Points) Guys looking for forgiveness (especially on the worst of swings) may want to look elsewhere. The Scratch EZ-1s are about a half-decade old and long heel to toe; the 9i and PW look odd with all that offset. This forgiveness is created by moving the center of gravity of the club to the periphery of the iron head. Scratch’s EZ-1 was the first iron we received for this review. Probably China. Wondering how the new Ping Anser forged held up in your analysis. That’s how much shafts matter. https://www.instagram.com/p/CJo-yEVDcyC/?igshid=1llg9lvv71oco, Best Players Cavity Back/Players Irons of all Time, Exotics CB2 7WD                          Accra TZ5-85 M5, MIURA Tourney Blade 8-P            MCI MMT-125TX, 2021 American Express WITB & Equipment Photos- Links and comments, Kevin Na WITB: 2021 Sony Open Winner (pics and specs), 2021 EQUIPMENT LAUNCHES (Running thread of all our launch pieces), Driving Iron Shaft - 2 Iron - Taylormade P790 UDI. It’s a shame you didn’t get to test the Srixon Z-TX irons. I think some way to have a formula that can calculate the distance/ball speed versus loft and length would make for a more fair review. Stop looking and try the M5s on for size. Excellent job. It’s something we’ve talked about doing, and may do in the future. Since this buying guide reviews some of the best Mizuno irons that have been released within the last ten years, and which can be still considered competitive with many of the current releases, we have taken the MP-64 as one of the best flow forged irons in the Mizuno’s low handicap range. I ask because I am considering buying some in the future. Not sure if anyone has thoughts on that. We don’t have those affiliations with them and the consumer comes first to us. Distance wise, I find the CB 2’s to be some of the longest irons on the market. I played them for years and still have them but am using Honma TW 737V CBs right now, a bit more forgiving. And not for anything, the irons I play every day aren’t any of the above. Once upon a time, there were simply… irons. @Luke – I applaud your powers of foresight. As far as we know PING didn’t provide Anser Forged irons to anyone (we tried, and likewise were turned down due to extremely limited production runs). Irons: Taylormade R9 Forged 5i-PW + Quadra 100i Pro x. Maybe I can call my bot Graeme up on the Tele and see if he can smooth things out with Cleveland so we can test the Z-TX irons. There needs to be a concrete comparison such as Accuracy-50%, Looks- 20%, Feel-5%, Want to purchase-10%, etc… Otherwise you can have all the data in the world but if you have no way to compare it in a way that leaves bias out, then you’ll always skew the results. The Ap2s also finished close to average for launch angle, spin rate, and ball speed, which for our money makes for a good, thought not a standout performer. And of course, as soon as we put tape on the head, we’d no doubt hear how our tests are invalid because tape (even if it’s not on the face) alters the performance characteristics of the club. * Classic solid feel that came from solid iron. Our core testers as a group were really looking forward to testing out the Z-TX irons. Having hit the Mizuno and the Wilson at length, it was a toss up between the two. I have hit the new Adams CB1& MP53. Brad. They’re dirt cheap right now, and even though they were considered the most forgiving Miura iron, they’re pretty much a players cb iron by modern standards. I absolutely love the CB-501s, and personally wouldn’t trade them for anything (they really were built just for me). The bottom line is that if I installed a set of grips like that, I would have been told me to do it over (and rightly so). As far as understanding the reason why they like Mizuno it is Plain Simple-Its the their milling process-They just have a better way to forge a club. Ping G400 3 Wood Aldila Rogue Silver 110 M.S.I. I think Stenson will back me up on this one, callaway legacy blacks!!! My opinion never carries any more weight than that of our numerous testers . I must tell you that I couldn’t be a bigger fan. Players irons, on the other hand, require more precise contact on the club face, and you are rewarded with improved feedback, workability, and distance control. You need to somehow assign a numerical value to subjective categories. Andrew, my comments about Wilson were meant facetiously…basically just trying to have a little fun with the review. Perhaps next year the Mizuno MP53’s should be included as reigning champion and to see if club design has moved on like advertised (I fear not lol). Cavity back irons are typically made for distance and forgiveness but have no distance control. MAC GREGOR WAS “THE STANDARD ” FOR MANY YEARS. It all stemmed from the Cleveland CG16 wedge images and new CG 16 Iron images we showed you guys. We do things a bit differently around here. For example, I may be distance focused or accuracy focused or I may not care about feel. Golfsmith bought MacGregor and they will take a trade and will negotiate price. I wonder why you chose a 7-iron for review?, when in the UK at least 6-irons are widely available as demo irons (although testers were given other irons to hit as well) and you could have included some Taylor Made and Callaway equipment into the mix. For those who might be willing to accept an accuracy trade-off for distance, the AP2s couldn’t come close to matching Fourteen for distance, finishing just 1oths above average. Spin numbers were the 2nd highest, while the launch angle was very close to the statistical average. Cavity backs are a different story. Regarding Luke’s comment(12/13 @ 8:13pm) about getting the moths out of your wallet, hey Luke, since you obviously have no moths in your wallet, why don’t you be the first to reach in your pocket & take one for the team! You will more than likely have low harmonics with the rest of these clubs-Like a bell the Mizunos ring in better providing you better response and feedback! This is an iron that clearly belongs in the discussion, and we’d expect much better survey results when we test the other irons in the Scratch lineup. Why do people surprise and think its biased to have the Mizuno’s on top? Not only is distance much better but the feel rivals the Mizunos. Then a whole bunch of distance before we get to other good ones like Yonex and the 718 CB. Ideally we’d get unmarked heads from the OEMs, but I’m not holding my breath. I have just been sent a set of the new RAZR tour irons and Hawk tour Driver, they are not a patch on the Bridgestone J38 irons..but the driver is Phenomenal. Finding a balance between subjective and the actual data, and then determining the appropriate balance between sub-categories (looks, feel, etc.) I wish my baby blade were made this way. While most review sites and magazines seem content to award a never ending stream of gold, silver, and bronze medals, or simply claim that every club they test is as awesome as every other, that’s not good enough for us. Of course it’s a far cry from football to golf. Mizuno MP 25, 4-9 (about to change)Miura CB-57 PW I bought the MacGregor last year based on this review. But I, for one, think you are very wrong. Which they chose not to agree with. Again, nice review. They also tweaked the cavity design a bit, giving it cleaner lines, and an ever-so-slightly more of a modern look, while still maintaining the classic Mizuno look that many golfers love. On looks alone it’s quickly becoming one of my personal favorites. JBeam Bullet 10*                           Fujikura Ventus Black 6X, Exotics CBX119 3 & 5WD              Accra Tour Z RPG 382 M5, Exotics CB2 7WD                          Accra TZ5-85 M5 MGS usually tests those clubs which you won’t see reviewed anywhere else (like the FG Forged which I’m looking on buying, much more now that I read the review), and its awesome for people who try to find their clubs away from big OEM brands. Learn how your comment data is processed. What’s going to happen to the demo sets are they to be returned? There, this Chinese company began producing these “new Ferrari’s” with their own employees, and suppliers. I was going to say the same. These type of irons are generally targeted to low and mid-handicap golfers, although they appeal to golfers of all ability levels, including some higher handicap golfers. That being truly the “Ultimate Golf Club Review System!”. With an average dispersion of only 5.6 yards off the center line, the high launching, low spinning  MP-53 was the 2nd most accurate iron we tested. Thanks for your efforts in this review. Though perhaps not a true performance indicator, we’re duly impressed that MacGregor chose one of our personal favorites, the KBS Tour, as its stock offering on their VIP irons. Those who love clean, traditional lines came away favoring the Cobra Pro CB, TourEdge CNC Forged, and the Mizuno MP-53. WHAT WAS SRIXON’S REASON TO DECLINE AND WHY WAS BRIDGESTONE OMITTED? Do you think there might be a pretty huge profit margin in those big, highly advertised OEM clubs????? We reviewed those irons back in June as a one-off review. Pricepoint plays a big part in what determines “best” to the average golf consumer. Another fine review guys. Look and the design of the new model stand tall with all the … Of course, we don’t want you to take our word for it, we want to show you how we arrive at our winners. Even if distance isn’t on your priority list, it will no doubt raise your eyebrows. We would have loved to include the Pings but at the time they did not have any demo media samples available because of the limited quantity of the Ping Anser Forged irons. 1.5 Beach Prototype (A010656). Of course, the results say it’s a look that clearly appeals to our testers. The cavity-back structure gives you forgiveness as well as playability. Here we have brands like MacGregor which would have never ever hoped in getting into a GD Hot List for example. With a smaller sweet spot, you could say that a blade is harder to hit compared to a cavity back. I don’t like specs. I am literally walking up the ball and telling my buddies, watch this, I’ll hit it stiff….and do it…even with the 4 iron. Can't really ask for more. While the MP-52 was a great iron in its own rite – an instant classic, which could explain why Mizuno continues to make them available as part of their Signature Series, the MP-53 offers a slight cosmetic upgrade, without sacrificing one iota of performance. It feels like the ball sticks to the face of these fantastic sticks! They are longer heel to toe and have a low CG. One of the most innovative and best Ping irons in Golf Monthly’s opinion, the i500 has the look of a muscleback iron from behind but, in fact, it’s hollow. It’s a well-known, well respected iron. Any slight miss-hit or not quite getting the sweet spot should … So, if I like Mizuno’s I have to take them down from the competition and vote for another brand to “avoid” being biased? Whats the next category for the ultimate review? I HOPE TO PLAY ANOTHER FEW YEARS WITH THESE, AS I HAVE SEEN NOTHING BETTER, EXCEPT THE MIURA IRONS AT ALMOST 3 GRAND.. You would be surprised at how much better many of you could control and hit the ball if you switched to x-stiff shafts. The amount of work involved in performance-based head to head review is substantial. Not only accuracy but also a better Forging Process with their grain flow process. And since these reviews are subjective, the fact that the MacGregors finished ahead of Scratch Golf’s irons doesn’t mean it’s a better club. I put a set of these in the bag having done some pretty extensive testing here in the UK. Number one if you look at the accuracty you will see that it was a clear 3 feet or 1 yard better than Cobra-Thats enough for me. I like the comments about what the higher handicappers think because, although I’m not a high handicapper (13 but can easily play to a 16), I feel that I’m only a mid handicapper because of my forgiving equipment! No surprise then that they must notify and correct your misconceptions about their clubs. In the feel category, the TC-910 pulled what I think might be the upset of the century. They’ll be an even better value than the CB1s or 2s. I agree with your feelings of bias, Mark. Every employee was let go from their facility in Albany, GA, where all their clubs were assembled. It won’t be next review, or next month. The TC-910 are the 3rd product from Japanese company Fourteen Golf we’ve been able to test. It’s safe to say that with 61 & counting, it will be a cold day in hell before any other manufacturer touches that number. Noting that all pings after are just revamped copies. Simply calling a club forged doesn’t due anything for me, as I’ve played some pretty harsh feeling forged clubs (The old Tommy Armours come to mind), but Mizuno, then Adams, and now Wilson seem to have a good process, or must be using the same or similar foundry for their heads. How come you didn’t test any Miura clubs? Have an opportunity to purchase VIP’s for $210. Getting the right one in a market with various options is a time-consuming task. We requested and received iron sets from Cobra, Fourteen Golf, MacGregor, Mizuno, Scratch, Titleist, TourEdge, and Wilson. I AM 75 Y/O AND A 6.0 INDEX. In our forums, our members have been discussing cavity back wedges. It was rated in the top half of the pack for looks, but that’s just the beginning. * Nice compact head with perfect width top line - sizes are overall smaller than Mac Pcb Tour Miura, with small offset too!   You cannot paste images directly. I’m sorry but black irons look terrible after a season of use, nomatter how well you hit them or take care of them. The EZ-1s are, on average, the 2nd shortest club we tested. I also have to agree with Luke on the “ultimate” review claim. EVNROLL ER2 Mid Blade Black with Gravity Grip Putter -Lajosi dd copper. Titleist Vokey Cold Forged 54* I must say the 62 is superior though. After admitting that the reviewer has a preference for Mizuno, then admitting that it didn’t win in the subjective panel but it still won overall gives the feeling of bias. TOO BAD THEY SLIPPED SO IN MARKETING AFTER GREG NORMAN SOLD THE COMPANY. That in and of itself isn’t that big of a deal, but the EZ-1 also produced the slowest ball speeds, and although we haven’t started including it in our reviews (yet), the 2nd lowest smash factor of the clubs we tested. Most irons perform practically the same, so its just about looks, feel, and that subjective thing you can give which makes the review worth while, 2. Cobra Forged Tec Black 7-PW, CBX 2 52* & 58*, VA Raijin hybrid, Cobra King Tour MIM and PXG Gen 1 0211 irons. Tom, I don’t know if it was a typo, but while the TM Burner 2.0s & Cleveland CG16s are indeed cavity back cast irons, the Mizuno JPX-800 Pro is a forged iron. I have played Cleveland irons and wedges for 7 to 8 years, and have had similar problems finding any Cleveland gear on the rack in stores to even look at for the last 3 years since their merger with Srixon. Those MP-66 have always looked stunning to me, I’ll change my answer to that). $339 new at golfsmith, couldn’t pass it up! I was wondering if the John Letters Master Model forged cavitys had hit the ground with you guys states side? Ryoma- crazy royal deco When can we expect the Mizuno MP63 and Wilson Staff blades critique? All of the cavity back irons that TaylorMade makes is going to be the most forgiving out there. They look clean, feel heavenly when struck right and are consistent distance wise. While the driver wasn’t among our favorites, the only fault we could find with the wedges was the price tag. Also considered other Mizunos (MP58, 59); Your thoughts on just going with Mizuno MP63 and calling it day or taking a low investment chance at the VIPs? I tried to pick ones that weren’t direct copies of another club. It finished #3 in feel (behind the MP-53, and Fourteen’s TC-910), and tied for third with the Titleist AP2 as the club our testers would most like to bring home with them. For someone to look at the distance/spin rate of a 34deg 7i versus a 36deg and not acknowledge the difference of loft isn’t fair, that’s half a club difference in loft. Bettinardi BB8 DASS RJB8158. Hogan played xx-stiffs btw. These have provided me with something that feel and distance can not…confidence. If you’re not going to test every set in the category you would have to call it the “ultimate review of every set we got for free” to be truthful. Wedges - 1) Overall Best Value Players Irons: Titleist AP2 712 They made some of the best irons, every model is as good as the one before, every Hot List included this year’s MP-53s. The MacGregor’s are going for $600 at Golfsmith… everything else on the list is near, at, or over $1,000. The best is always very subjective. I will gladly give up mid iron distance for accuracy…..Thanks Mizuno & thanks MyGolfSpy! Wk 1 1st Place….$87 I really liked the Z-TX driver, and so did many of our testers. The last 3 years I was a 20 Hcap at this time of the year…now I am 5 strokes less and the season is just begining! (Nippon Modus 125 X Flex in 3-PW) FREDDY DID VERY WELL THIS YEAR WITH THEIR CAVITY BACK FORGED IRONS. JBeam J3 Tour 10.5* - Syncagraphite Loop Prototype IP X You can post now and register later. >> View Our New – Interactive Review System <<. TaylorMade P790 Iron Set: 3. It added value to my purchase of a new iron set in Denver yesterday. Grandista McQueen GSS Putter Imo the best of the best all time for me is this one and I don't keep much cavity irons. And not sure how the clubs like AP2 are really considered forged since they are pieced together with only a portion being forged. The ball flies straight and true. I can’t believe that I have the opportunity to get a set of the Fourteen TC-930 irons! Good looking, fast and forgiving for mid to high handicappers. I'm biased so I say these since I been playing them for 5 years and nothing has threatened to take their spot in my bag. Tour G 50 Grips  I AM CURIOUS THAT BRIDGESTONE WAS NOT ON YOUR LIST. Andy – We’ll slowly be releasing additional points of interactivity (never thought I’d write that phrase in describing a golf review). I know this sounds crazy but if a company like say Srixon doesn’t supply you with clubs you can let the moths out of your wallet and buy a set. Here some pictures up close of the SIM only for now. This job, however, requires that you stop looking at labels, check your preconceived notions at the door, and just hit the damn club. Most people have absolutely no idea how much time and effort is involved in doing a reviews like this one. You can read that here: http://www.mygolfspy.com/miura-cb-501-irons-reviews/, How come you didn’t review the Titleist 710 CB? I am trying to say that Golfsmith is doing a good job with the design and R&D of the MacGregor brand. What if it were the least accurate club of the group but the variance of the entire group was only 1/8th of an inch? Any Yamaha or Tourstage from '08 to '13 gets my vote over other JDM cavity backs. Wedges: Cleveland RTX3 52*/58* + Modus 130. The more time I spend looking at and hitting these irons, the more I grow to love them. The CNC forged is clearly not the iron for hackers. I can’t tell you how the MacGregors compare with others in this review but I can tell you this: With them, my accuracy has improved dramatically. Incredibly accurate throughout the set. Ping Anser 20 & Anser 23 Hybrid Callaway Epic Flash Subzero 15* Mitsubishi Rayon Diamana BF 70X Though they didn’t crack the top 3 among the irons our testers most wanted to take home with them, they received some 2nd and 3rd place votes. For those interested in distance from their irons, the Cobra low-launch, mid-spin Pro CB registered the 2nd highest ball speeds, and finished 2nd in overall distance with our testers combining for 163.85 yards on average. Without an x-stiff (basically a men’s stiff compared to previous standards of years past) shaft I can’t do much with a club. I did not see the Ping S56 or I20 though. There is no substitute. Share this story: Facebook; Twitter; LinkedIn; Gold. Loft is also very subjective when you consider a clubs Centre of Gravity, these are players clubs and shouldn’t be designed to give you a ‘juiced up’ yardage so a couple of degrees is arbitary. × Please continue your good work for all of pursuing golf. Post a Pic of Your Latest Purchase....... Titleist TSi 2 & TSi 3 driver and 3 woods - 2020 Safeway Open. Many of our testers told us that while they had heard of MacGregor, they didn’t actually think the company was still producing new clubs, let alone a quality forged cavityback capable of holding its own against the industry giants. Wish they could have been tested too. A long time ago, the cavity back irons were known for forgiveness, but their feel was not nearly as good. Pro Wedge 115  They are forgiving, but the AR-1s (another half-decade old set) are a better iron. Love the wedge, but I replaced the grip on it even before using it for the first time. (and Scotty Cameron)…. At least Wilson isn’t a brand name offered by a 3rd party marketer like Golfsmith…. So expect to see even more bells & whistles in the next series of reviews as we take the next steps towards creating the type of golf equipment reviews we’ve always envisioned since day 1 at MyGolfSpy. It’s early in your process & I have no doubt that you’ll learn & improve the process as you go forward. I am 61 yrs old with a shattered left wrist (doesn’t rotate much) and now a 15 Handicap. Total: $280.00. Scratch should either get out of irons or stick to blades and wedges, if they’re not going to conduct some badly needed updating in their cavity back irons. Mizuno MP-18 Split Cavity Iron Set: 10. In addition to his editorial responsibilities, he was instrumental in developing MyGolfSpy's data-driven testing methodologies and continues to sift through our data to find the insights that can help improve your game. I play a set of PRGR Miura forged irons and love them. While performance was squarely in the average range (most clubs we test are), our testers came away with the opinion that Wilson FG Tour was anything but ordinary. Thanks for this and rest of the reviews that this site provides. With a spin rate of only 5,128 RPMs, the TC-910 was the lowest spinning club we tested by better than 500 RPMs on average. The cavity back design allows manufacturers to create an iron with more forgiveness than a blade. Beginning with this review, we’re giving you the option to interact with our data in whatever way is meaningful for you. I have yet to hit one of the “new” forged irons. There is a level of personalization and detail you won’t find with a standard set of OEMs, which is why a set of Miura’s will run you $500 more than anything we featured in this review. easyyy posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, Tuesday at 03:13 AM, easyyy posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, Monday at 03:11 AM, youngwaldo posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, January 12, BAlberstadt posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, January 12, kennyFpowers55 posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, January 5, By I know this test was aimed at the mid to high handicapper, I would like to see bridgestone clubs given a chance? As we demonstrated, both cavity back and muscle back irons have their pros and cons. With an average dispersion of 6.45 yards off the centerline, the Fourteen TC-910 produced the best results of the bottom 3 clubs in that category, which amounts to miss of just under 1 additonal yard when compared to the average for all clubs tested. Yes, I demoed a set. And did Sam Snead play any other brand of clubs other than Wilson? This is a club that most definitely has that players looks to it; significantly more-so than the other clubs in this test. Based on that alone, you could argue they deserve to be ranked higher. And who exactly is hitting your clubs that they need the softer tipped (helper) kbs to get the ball up ? Looks, feel, workability and performance are essential to a great players iron. As far as looks are concerned, the Fourteen TC-910 may have gotten stuck in the middle a bit. Not long after we received our test set, Cobra announced that its replacement, the S3 Pro CB, would be available soon. 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